ahahahah i was looking for a tumblr post i remembered about why so many fans that are also part of marginalized groups have latched on to steve rogers (which by the way if anyone knows that post and can send it to THAT’D BE AWESOME)
and someone made a post about how “It isn’t that bad of a headcanon, in all honesty, especially if you consider him and Tony Stark (I feel like he’s probably bi)” which what no literally no one was talking about tony but okay whatever and then they proceeded to say that it erases the canon bisexuals AKA deadpool, loki, mystique, black widow, and hercules and ended by saying “do your research.”
SO MANY THINGS WRONG HERE
one) the do your research just reeks of fan elitism and ‘these fangirls don’t realllly know comics’
two) except hercules, you know what these characters all have in common? THEY’VE ALL BEEN VILLAINS weird right? it’s almost like being queer (and maybe especially bisexual? i don’t actually know so i’m assuming not) is associated with evil in pop culture. honestly, i couldn’t tell who hercules was in the picture because his face was in shadow and he was STANDING ON A PILE OF BODIES like wow way to go your only completely positive example had about the worst picture i can think of
three) this is all irrelevant because none of them are captain america. having steve rogers be bisexual (or pan or ace or any other identity fans have suggested) isn’t the same as a fan favorite morally ambiguous character be bi- it’s having one of the core avengers, the guy who explicitly stands for america’s ideals, who’s one of marvel’s oldest superheroes, and quite frequently the moral compass of the entire marvel universe be bisexual which is so much more powerful than your examples
four) having steve be bisexual does not invalidate any other characters’ identities (i think there’s more of an argument to be made here, but with these specific characters i think it’s less than convincing)
five) I SHOUDN”T HAVE TO DO MY RESEARCH this should be common knowledge, both for those characters and for steve, and i think that’s the real thing- steve rogers is about the most visible superhero/comic book character on the market right now and having him be canonically bisexual in comics and movies (which is almost certainly what fans would like) would be amazingly visible (by the way, two of these examples have been very heavily featured in big marvel movies lately- mystique and loki- and neither one has said anything about this in x men or thor/avengers, nor has it been even hinted, and certainly not canonically confirmed)
so basically PLEASE STOP
THIS THIS THIS
The “Do Your Research” arguments from some people are so atrocious.
First off, after generalizing that all of the bi!Steve fans are “fangirls,” making comments like that is incredibly sexist. It encourages the “fake geek girl” stereotype. I shouldn’t have to hear “Wow, a girl who knows her comics! No way!” kinds of comments from people in comic book stores, and making these kinds of comments encourages the mentality that gets me those kinds of comments.
Second off, positive and very mainstream representation is beyond important. Look at how important seeing characters like Lavern Cox’s on OITNB has been to trans individuals—seeing positive mainstream portrayals of your identity makes a world of difference when trying to explain it to others. If I say “Like Deadpool,” or “Like Natasha,” or “Like Loki” when explaining my sexual orientation, only avid fans of the comics will get it (also, I wouldn’t say “Like Loki,” anyway, since Loki is pansexual and I am not).
If I say “Like Steve Rogers,” and he’s canonically bi and it’s well portrayed, people will get it. With the way that bisexuality is constantly demonized, overshadowed, and just plain misunderstood, that kind of representation is important. Having morally ambiguous bi characters isn’t necessarily bad, but having only morally ambiguous characters or poor representation of the bi “good guys” is.
And finally, if you’re problem is that there’s already representation and others who identify as the sexuality in question still feel invisible, than maybe you should consider whether there actually is a problem.
I actually got into a mini debate with someone who hated how almost all of the Young Avengers cast is queer, and how the one straight character may actually be bi or pan anyway. They said it was “trying too hard” or “forced.” Me? As a queer person? I loved it because I know of clusters and groups and teams of people that are 100% queer or 90% queer, but definitely more queer than straight. So to me, it was real.
I want that kind of representation. I want it to be positive representation, unambiguous representation, and celebratory representation. I want it to be representation in the mainstream, rather than representation I have to search for. And I shouldn’t be shamed for wanting it.